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. >> she later moved over to the pentagon for the obama administration. she says they advocated a policy of trying to contain al-qaeda in north africa, instead of building up the abilities of regional governments to fight them. she says there's no guarantee mukhtar will confine himself to north africa. >> france is definitely a country where he would carry out terrorist attacks. also against americans in american insulations in africa. >> similar perhaps to osama bin laden. when the 1990s began, he was in saudi arabia. in 1992, he crossed into africa and escapeded assassination in sudan. in 1996, bin laden took a chartered flight to afghanistan. in 1998, president clinton ordered a missile strike on bin laden and missed, but crews say they missed other opportunities to get bin lad b. whether the miss on mukhtar ever comes close to the miss on bin laden remains to be seen. >> still to come, the child who was held hostage in an underground bunker celebrated his birthday today. what we now know about the man who held him captive. plus, survivors of the sandy
. >> she later moved over to the pentagon for the obama administration. she says they advocated a policy of trying to contain al-qaeda in north africa, instead of building up the abilities of regional governments to fight them. she says there's no guarantee mukhtar will confine himself to north africa. >> france is definitely a country where he would carry out terrorist attacks. also against americans in american insulations in africa. >> similar perhaps to osama bin laden....
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>> i think it's so encouraging to see such bold moves coming from the obama administration as we've seen, not just on this issue but on the issue of immigration, to see him coming out and saying strongly -- >> by the way, at the same time. >> at the same time, which is something i think a lot of people never would have expected. but to see him coming out and starting this task force. as a young elected official, i was so struck by what happened in sandy hook. i lived through tucson but for a long time i said i'm not going to get involved in this issue, this is not going to be something i'm going to politicize. but we saw aurora, but when it hit close to home, when it was our children, our most vulnerable, that's when it started. and seeing gabby saying we need to be brave and america is counting on you, that was a message for all of our elected officials up and down from the state house all the way to the white house. >> zach, on this issue, it's a children's protection issue that the democrats are trying to frame. it seems like the kind of thing that the boy scouts would want to get beh
>> i think it's so encouraging to see such bold moves coming from the obama administration as we've seen, not just on this issue but on the issue of immigration, to see him coming out and saying strongly -- >> by the way, at the same time. >> at the same time, which is something i think a lot of people never would have expected. but to see him coming out and starting this task force. as a young elected official, i was so struck by what happened in sandy hook. i lived through...
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administration, gates, hagel, lahood. we're trying to do the right thing -- >> we're out of time. anybody think he's not going to get confirmed? >> he's going to get confirmed absolutely. >> great roundtable. stephanie will stick around and answer your facebook questions on the web exclusive and george saunders getting attention over his new book "tenth of december." he joins us next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 but there is one source with a wealth of etf knowledge tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all in one place. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 introducing schwab etf onesource™. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 it's one source with the most commission-free etfs. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 one source with etfs from leading providers tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and extensive coverage of major asset classes... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all brought to you by one firm tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with comprehensive education, tools and personal guidance tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 to help you find etfs that may
administration, gates, hagel, lahood. we're trying to do the right thing -- >> we're out of time. anybody think he's not going to get confirmed? >> he's going to get confirmed absolutely. >> great roundtable. stephanie will stick around and answer your facebook questions on the web exclusive and george saunders getting attention over his new book "tenth of december." he joins us next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#:...
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former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration. i'm sorry, this just made me chuckle. david, i started thinking back to bobby jindal in 2009. panned by democrats and republicans alike. people were so nasty. they were picking on the way he walked out to the podium. it was pretty harsh. "the new york times" headline the next day was governor jindal rising star plummets after speech. is this too dangerous for a rising star to take on? >> well, these are big opportunities and there's always a chance of recovery. let's not forget one of the most universally condemned speech of recent times was bill clinton's keynote speech at the 1988 democratic convention when he got a big round of applause when he said in conclusion. he did okay. they nominated him next time and he went on to a pretty successful political career. let's not forget that last time the person who gave the response was paul ryan, who went on to gain the republican vice presidential nomination. it's a big moment. if you do well, there are opportunities. if you do badly, it'
former deputy assistant secretary of defense in the obama administration. i'm sorry, this just made me chuckle. david, i started thinking back to bobby jindal in 2009. panned by democrats and republicans alike. people were so nasty. they were picking on the way he walked out to the podium. it was pretty harsh. "the new york times" headline the next day was governor jindal rising star plummets after speech. is this too dangerous for a rising star to take on? >> well, these are...
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>> well, there was an interesting statistic in the first year of the obama administration. i think -- or perhaps over the first couple of years in the administration. he authorized more drone strikes and more people were killed in drone strikes that he authorized than the total number of people that had before passed through guantanamo bay. that crystallizes that hypocrisy people talk about. >> you could also argue that we know drone strikes work. you know, the jury still seems like it's out with regard to harsh interrogation methods, but drone strikes work. >> in terms of the morality, you know, if you determine that there are threats out there, there are bad guys that you need to take off the battlefield but you can't go there, you can't go to pakistan, you can't go to certain places, then what alternative do you have if you can't capture them? in other words, once you have detained suspected terrorists, there are all sorts of international laws, the laws of war, the geneva conventions that say you can't touch the person, you can't, you know, punch the person in the nose
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he called the obama administration the imperial presidency. he stepped out today to show there are no rough edges in this republican party. let's listen to cantor today. >> we'll advance proposals aimed at producing results in areas like education, health care, innovation, and job growth. our solutions will be based on the conservative principles of self-reliance, faith in the individual, trust in family, and accountability in government. our goal is to ensure that every american has a fair shot to earn success and achieve their dreams. >> what a cover-up. your party ought to be ashamed of itself. you spent months in every state legislative capital trying to keep black people and poor people from voting or young people. now you're out pretending that you care about opportunity in america. it's an absurdity eric cantor -- >> the speech by eric cantor was a very good speech. >> if it wasn't given by him maybe. >> eric cantor is a good guy. he's got a family. he cares about this country. he's a patriot. he cares about making government work bette
he called the obama administration the imperial presidency. he stepped out today to show there are no rough edges in this republican party. let's listen to cantor today. >> we'll advance proposals aimed at producing results in areas like education, health care, innovation, and job growth. our solutions will be based on the conservative principles of self-reliance, faith in the individual, trust in family, and accountability in government. our goal is to ensure that every american has a...
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now, the "new york times" is starting to compare the obama administration to george w. bush, this is significant shift. >> the other thing even the nation's gregg mitchell did not make the issue about the drones and the drone bases in saudi arabia as much of an issue which i thought he should have. particularly because 9/11 was supposedly, according to some of the terrorists, because we had bases in saudi arabia. that whole thing was totally looked over. >> cal put his finger on it. after the election. they weren't going mess up obama's bed before the election. now, that the partisan mission of getting him re-elected is completed they can go back to being liberals and worry about due process and where is the aclu. it has been a field day for left wing papers like mother jones and guardian has been on this. they had these reports years ago that the "new york times" and "washington post" weren't interested in. >> what they are focusing on is the wrong thing. they are under report wagon is going on in the middle east nations that are harboring the terrorists. what they are
now, the "new york times" is starting to compare the obama administration to george w. bush, this is significant shift. >> the other thing even the nation's gregg mitchell did not make the issue about the drones and the drone bases in saudi arabia as much of an issue which i thought he should have. particularly because 9/11 was supposedly, according to some of the terrorists, because we had bases in saudi arabia. that whole thing was totally looked over. >> cal put his...
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the obama administration now breaking years of secrecy and handing over a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president obama called wyden specifically last night. >> clearly, the president's call to senator wyden so unusual and trying to ward off what could be a calamitous hearing today. >> what standard will barack obama be held to after the pictures of the little children who were killed by his cone drone attacks are placed before the jury in the hague? >> i was encouraged last night when the president called and he said as part of this effort, he is going to try to drive a more extensive discussion about these issues. every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i do
the obama administration now breaking years of secrecy and handing over a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president...
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there must be consistency from one administration to the next. even though i trust president obama. if we set a president now, are we going to live with that if the next president is someone we don't agree with? no matter the politics, that's the question we should think about. policy should be around the precedent we set. no president should be able to go unchecked. i was opposed to it under bush. i'm opposed to it now. i'm afraid for the future. we must watch this carefully. i'm a.m. sharpton, thanks for watching.
there must be consistency from one administration to the next. even though i trust president obama. if we set a president now, are we going to live with that if the next president is someone we don't agree with? no matter the politics, that's the question we should think about. policy should be around the precedent we set. no president should be able to go unchecked. i was opposed to it under bush. i'm opposed to it now. i'm afraid for the future. we must watch this carefully. i'm a.m....
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and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we believe. >> the sequence of events, as i understand them is this. members of congress, pat leahy, others, were demanding to see the olc memos on targeted killing of americans. >> jane harman who was in the house intelligence committee saying she was stunned more hadn't been demanding this. say they'd asked during the bush years for olc memos. >> democrats were not nearly as loud on this subject as they were during the bush years, but they were asking for them. and so what the justice department did was say, okay, we're not going to give you the olc memos because we
and you look at this memo, which is an obama administration memo. first of all, you read it in its entirety. people can go on dotcom. it's really hard to see anything there that's -- that relates to operational security. it's not classified. it's purely legal arguments. so why has it taken until now for us to get a copy of it and let the public read it? >> we know for sure the memo was written by the justice department. we assume inside the olc, the office of legal counsel. that's what we...
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he is considered the architect of the obama administration's drone campaign. this is a big deal laying out a lot of new facts related to this controversial program and nbc's michael isikoff is going to join us later on "morning joe." after spending months focused on federal spending and deficit reduction, to day house majority leader eric cantor plans to urge his republican party to take its message in a new direction. in what's being described as a major policy speech one week before the president's state of the union address, kantor wcant to rollout a new agenda that puts emphasis on how the government can help american families in their daily lives. expected to touch on new and existing republican education initiatives, the need to simplify the tax code sh ways to curb rising health care costs and the hot issue of immigration reform. in a prespeech excerpt, he is quote the as saying, "government policy should aim to strike a balance between what is needed to aadvance the next generation, what we can afford, what is a federal responsibility, and what is nece
he is considered the architect of the obama administration's drone campaign. this is a big deal laying out a lot of new facts related to this controversial program and nbc's michael isikoff is going to join us later on "morning joe." after spending months focused on federal spending and deficit reduction, to day house majority leader eric cantor plans to urge his republican party to take its message in a new direction. in what's being described as a major policy speech one week before...
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dealing with the administration's own efts to support president obama's priorities. how critical, joy, is party unity to the president's seblgd term agenda? >> well, absolutely critical. because harry reid decided not to do full-on filibuster reform, he still has to get through the senate and with 60 votes. and on the house side, obviously, the same thing applies. now that john boehner has broken the rule, that he's willing to move bills through with democrats as well as republicans, he still needs to hold together enough democrats so you don't see them walk away with some of these ideas. the main thing that the president has going for him is not so much the party unanimity. they are almost sort of left out in the cold because the establishment is pushing them back. they no longer have an interest in them. they want them to sit down and be kwooit because they're embarrassing them. >> five days before the state of the union address and the president seems to have done well pushing forward on his agenda. got passed the fiscal cliff. immigration front and center. gun co
dealing with the administration's own efts to support president obama's priorities. how critical, joy, is party unity to the president's seblgd term agenda? >> well, absolutely critical. because harry reid decided not to do full-on filibuster reform, he still has to get through the senate and with 60 votes. and on the house side, obviously, the same thing applies. now that john boehner has broken the rule, that he's willing to move bills through with democrats as well as republicans, he...
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the obama administration hands over to the senate intelligence committee today. a classified document that justifies the killing of americans who are members of al-qaeda. expected to face. he is also expected to explain his role in the detention and interrogation role. new jersy governor chris christie is blasting a former white house physician who said christie's weight might cause him to die in office. christie toured the city of sea girt, new jersey yesterday and talked with people there about damage from superstorm sandy. but he was also asked about comments by dr. connie mariano who said christie's health was "like a time bomb" and that she worried he might have a heart attack or a stroke. >> this is just another hackle want five minutes on television. it is completely irresponsible. my children saw that last night. she sat there on tv and say i'm afraid he's going to die in office. i am in private practice. i see many patients every day. i have patients to suffer with obesity. over 30 percent of americans suffer from obesity. it is a huge problem. >> he has
the obama administration hands over to the senate intelligence committee today. a classified document that justifies the killing of americans who are members of al-qaeda. expected to face. he is also expected to explain his role in the detention and interrogation role. new jersy governor chris christie is blasting a former white house physician who said christie's weight might cause him to die in office. christie toured the city of sea girt, new jersey yesterday and talked with people there...
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. >>> tonight joe biden continued the obama's administration push for gun control. speaking at a democratic retreat, biden acknowledged there are no easy solutions. >> we all know there is no single answer to ensure this will never happen again. a mass shooting like newtown or aurora or tucson or oak creek. well, if we have to act, we have to act rationally and do whatever we can to diminish the possibility of this ever happening again. >> president obama is expected to speak at that retreat tomorrow. and former president bill clinton is scheduled to speak on friday. >>> a popular georgetown food shop closed up tonight after a complaint. the department of health says it found rats, roaches and mice infestation at dean and deluca. and we spoke with the store employee, and he wouldn't commit. investigative reporter russ ptacek is digging for more details, and he'll bring them to you tomorrow at 11:00 along with the rest of the week's food alerts and closures. >>> there are reports tonight about a merger deal between american airlines and us airways. it's expected to b
. >>> tonight joe biden continued the obama's administration push for gun control. speaking at a democratic retreat, biden acknowledged there are no easy solutions. >> we all know there is no single answer to ensure this will never happen again. a mass shooting like newtown or aurora or tucson or oak creek. well, if we have to act, we have to act rationally and do whatever we can to diminish the possibility of this ever happening again. >> president obama is expected to...
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. >> under the obama administration, their use has increased. but it's now under serious fire on capitol hill. here's abc's tahman bradley. >> reporter: president obama's pick for cia director, john brennan, could face serious heat from members of the president's own party at his confirmation hearing this afternoon. democrats will likely demand answers about the use of unmanned drones to attack u.s. enemies overseas. brennan is the administration's point person on drones, the man who signs off on the kill list. >> i suggest to you that these targeted strikes against al qaeda terrorists are, indeed, ethical and just. >> reporter: the use of drones has grown 700% under the obama administration. we learned just yesterday, that america has a secret base in saudi arabia, used to send drones throughout the region. lawmakers will discover about a document that says american citizens tied to al qaeda can be killed if a high-level official believes the target poses an imminent threat. but the government can do so without having clear evidence. human righ
. >> under the obama administration, their use has increased. but it's now under serious fire on capitol hill. here's abc's tahman bradley. >> reporter: president obama's pick for cia director, john brennan, could face serious heat from members of the president's own party at his confirmation hearing this afternoon. democrats will likely demand answers about the use of unmanned drones to attack u.s. enemies overseas. brennan is the administration's point person on drones, the man...
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not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee. senator, you are the expert. what does the committee want to hear today from john brennan before deciding to vote whether he should be the next cia director? >> i think what we're going to hear -- i've had good talks with john brennan. i have known him for a number of years, and the fact of the matter is, you know, he himself was not aware of the intelligence and the eitc enhanced interrogation and torture stuff. there's a lot that he -- until we wrote a 6,000 page document with 23,000 foot notes. he has read the summaries of that, and he is shocked. there's a lot people don't know even though they
not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee....
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are you saying today, it is totally unconnected to the obama administration's shift in its detainee policy? >> i can say that there is not an occasion that we had the opportunity to capture a terrorist and we didn't and we decided to do a strike. there is no correlation in any type of the c.i.a.'s interrogation program. if you look at the last four years what happened in a number of places, such as yemen eastern areas, there was a growth of al qaeda, quite unfortunately. what we tried to do in this administration is to take every measure to protect the lives of american citizens whether it is abroad or in the united states. and there is insight in those intelligence plots as a result of the investment that was made by the previous administration which allowed us in this administration to take appropriate actions. >> let's look at the targeted killings. when the targeted killings began several years ago, the first order of fact was the elimination of the senior operational leadership of al qaeda, many of them were the core leaders. obviously, that is a critical priority. we have heard both
are you saying today, it is totally unconnected to the obama administration's shift in its detainee policy? >> i can say that there is not an occasion that we had the opportunity to capture a terrorist and we didn't and we decided to do a strike. there is no correlation in any type of the c.i.a.'s interrogation program. if you look at the last four years what happened in a number of places, such as yemen eastern areas, there was a growth of al qaeda, quite unfortunately. what we tried to...
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a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a ranking al qaeda figure. who, the target pose an imminent threat of violent attack against the u.s., and, three, that the targets capture is not feasible. all of those seem like terms that are open to pretty broad interpretation. >> that's exactly right, alex. i think one of the things that is most troubling and remarkable about this memo are that what appear to be restrictions on the first page of the memo become permissions by the end of it when you start reading how they're defined. take imindependence, for example. the administration says that it can only target people who are an imminent threat, bu
a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a...
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but rougher waters lie ahead for some other obama administration cabinet nominees. chuck hagel failed to impress a lot of republicans during his confirmation hearing, who had already harbored doubts with his past controversial statements. his testimony reinforced experience held by some. that he is unprepared for such a vital post. >> i am really deeply concerned about what i saw last week. i think i'm leaning no on this nomination and i will tell you why. it was shocking to me when he was asked about our policy toward iran, that the fundamental -- one of the fundamental threats to our country that he didn't know that our policy was not containment? i moon, that was shocking. >> c.i.a. director nominee john brennan performed better in his confirmation hearing. yet faces criticism for holding the bush and obama administrations to two different ethical standards in the war on terror. the republicans are determined to hold up his nomination for another reason. >> it is absolutely essential that the documents this committee has requested on benghazi be supplied before t
but rougher waters lie ahead for some other obama administration cabinet nominees. chuck hagel failed to impress a lot of republicans during his confirmation hearing, who had already harbored doubts with his past controversial statements. his testimony reinforced experience held by some. that he is unprepared for such a vital post. >> i am really deeply concerned about what i saw last week. i think i'm leaning no on this nomination and i will tell you why. it was shocking to me when he...
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we've known the obama administration uses them but the legal justification was revealed and be a big topic at brennan's hearing thursday before the senate about the c.i.a. can i play a sound bite and go back? this is jonathan karl and jay carney. >> how does dropping a bomb on an american citizen without judicial review, any trial, not raise more human rights question than something like waterboarding. >> the questions around this issue are important and the president takes them seriously. >> let's be clear, this is giving legal justification for killing american citizens without any trial whatsoever. >> i would point you to the ample judicial precedent for the idea someone who takes up arsenal against the united states in a war against the united states is an enemy. >> bob, you wanted to say something. >> holder said eminent threat to the united states. the condition a leader present an imminent threat does not require united states to have clear evidence of a specific attack will take place in the immediate future. in other words, they can drop a drone on a u.s. citizens with no ju
we've known the obama administration uses them but the legal justification was revealed and be a big topic at brennan's hearing thursday before the senate about the c.i.a. can i play a sound bite and go back? this is jonathan karl and jay carney. >> how does dropping a bomb on an american citizen without judicial review, any trial, not raise more human rights question than something like waterboarding. >> the questions around this issue are important and the president takes them...
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administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. >> i will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. chris: boy, he's gotten older, hasn't he? that was president obama as a candidate in 2007, running hard against the legacy of the bush-cheney foreign policy. at issue now today the 700% rampup of drone strikes under obama. there have been 350 under obama, largely in pakistan. a key question is blowback, no one knows how many untargeted civilians have been killed by drone strikes or the damage to winning hearts and mind over there. the effect of blowback is a central theme in the television series "homeland" where the main character goes from captured marine to terrorist himself when the son of his kaptur in iraq is killed by a thrown. they watch the american vice president on tv together after that drone strike. >> the images being broadcast on some outlets around the world are the bodies of 83 dead
administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. >> i will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution and our freedom. chris: boy, he's gotten older, hasn't he? that was president obama as a candidate in 2007, running hard against the legacy of the bush-cheney foreign policy. at issue now today the 700% rampup of drone...